{"id":70028,"date":"2025-11-13T10:31:46","date_gmt":"2025-11-13T10:31:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/?post_type=podcasts&#038;p=70028"},"modified":"2025-11-13T10:31:55","modified_gmt":"2025-11-13T10:31:55","slug":"fossils-first-renewables-later-the-cost-of-delay-podcast","status":"publish","type":"podcasts","link":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/podcasts\/fossils-first-renewables-later-the-cost-of-delay-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Fossils First, Renewables Later: The Cost of Delay &#8211; Podcast"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div id=\"buzzsprout-player-18183006\"><\/div><script src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2002222\/episodes\/18183006-fossils-first-renewables-later-the-cost-of-delay.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-18183006&#038;player=small\" type=\"text\/javascript\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Listen on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6ELIyhZCpkhT611TbeTcls?si=Bd6BZIWwTCKu0lLz6vkqJw\">Spotify<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/fossils-first-renewables-later-the-cost-of-delay\/id1634524096?i=1000736562143\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/e6a34d1f-0ae8-4fcd-8996-765f570bf59e\/episodes\/e2d8c30f-4427-4659-b6dd-7d7da4e1040e\/energy-insights-fossils-first-renewables-later-the-cost-of-delay\">Amazon Music<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2002222\/episodes\/18183006\">others<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this episode of Energy Insights, host Stephen sits down with Katherine Hasan, Analyst at the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA), to unpack Indonesia\u2019s latest power plan \u2014 and the widening gap between climate ambition and reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Despite strong public messaging on renewables, Indonesia\u2019s RUPTL 2025\u20132034 places fossil fuels at the centre of the next decade, delaying meaningful renewable expansion until the 2030s. Katherine explains why this \u201cfossils first, renewables later\u201d approach risks locking the country into high emissions, stranded assets, and rising power costs \u2014 and what it means for Indonesia\u2019s net-zero commitments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We explore the policy barriers slowing renewable scale-up, the financial consequences of continued coal and gas investment, and the opportunities Indonesia is missing at a decisive moment for the energy transition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LinkedIn:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/katherine-hasan-3ba9b167\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Katherine Hasan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Listen on\u00a0Spotify,\u00a0Apple Podcasts,\u00a0Amazon Music\u00a0and\u00a0others In this episode of Energy Insights, host Stephen sits down with&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":70033,"template":"","categories":[586],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-70028","podcasts","type-podcasts","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcasts"],"acf":{"manage_the_date":"global","selected_podcast":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcasts\/70028","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcasts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcasts"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/70033"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70028"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70028"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/energytracker.asia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70028"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}